Ships of Tarshish

Ships of Tarshish

There is a particular Christian view that understands Great Britain and its proxy the USA as the biblical “ships of Tarshish”.    This view is very closely associated with Christian-Zionism and is both scripturally misinformed and politically naive.  Perfidious Albion may well be a friend of Israel but that does not make it a friend of God.   Great Britain is in the hands of the globalist Rothschild dynasty and despite the outward appearance that it has left the EU (Brexit) it is pursuing ever closer relations on the security and defense fronts as the UK column (see  7 Dec episode on this site) makes abundantly clear.   Britain has not left Catholic Europe (lol) and is a linchpin of the NWO beast system. Besides which the true wielders of power (the black pope of the Jesuits) are fully on board with the new ecumenical Jewish push for Noahide laws etc.  

David Ellis Report: Skynet

 

One Web

 

They are even in Adelaide

Skynet (One Web) are even in Adelaide (Mawson Lakes).  Doesn’t that make you feel safe?  I am sure China doesn’t mind.

 Conclusion

There are no good guys.  Certainly not Great Britain.  Certainly not Israel.  Nor the USA nor China. All these countries operate out of self interest and they all want to dominate the world.  A great game is being played and no corner of the earth is safe from these power games.  Whoever wins they want to subject humanity.  We have met the enemy and it is us.

Christians need to wake up and smell the coffee. There is only one allegiance we must have and that is to Jesus Christ.

 The world that the tribe is building is anti-human and anti-freedom. It is based on drones, robots, surveillance trans-humanism and artificial intelligence (AI).  If you are not warning your flock you are part of the problem. The Lord is at hand and his reward is with him. This is a final call to wake up or face judgement.   It is not for nothing they have called the new system skynet.  More predictive programing. 

Skynet Takes Over And Becomes Self-Aware – Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines

 

 

UK Column News – 16th September 2020

UK Column News – 16th September 2020

Another great show highlighting the fascist takeover of the UK, the necessity for “daily” testing and immunity passports. At about 30 minutes they discus the threat to burn down a church because of LGBT remarks.  Also the regionalization and fragmentation of the UK which follows the EU model and the subjection of common law etc to treaty law (so much for Brexit). Lastly the pending case against Loyds Bank Corruption is exposed.

 

UK Column News – 2nd September 2020

UK Column News – 2nd September 2020

Summary

0:00 Deliberately confusing using psychological warfare
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Weekly Corona report Public Health England (Cases)
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=211
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Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s
Weekly Corona report Public Health England (Cases per 100k)
Very low
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Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=294
Weekly Corona report Public Health England (Hospital admissions)
Virtually Zero
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Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=386
Piers Corbyn arrested fund raiser
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Piers Corbyn Good Morning Britian interview
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=428
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Australia
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=1449
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People power
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=1792
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Unemployment
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=1902
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Mark Sedwill leaves
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=2075
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Simon Case in charge of Intelligence
Experience in Royal Household?
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=2184
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Returning to Primary Schools
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s
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Confirming online Identity
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=2721
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Russian border- U.S. military exercises
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=3142
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Brexit
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=3391
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Australia Face book Changes
Timestamp=https://youtu.be/3y6NmdH5k4s?t=3560

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I am John Cullen

The report from John Cullen was mentioned on the UK Column.  This is truly an excellent video that completely deconstructs the CDC numbers.  It was the result of a tweet that pointed out that the CDC stated on their own website that only 6% of the deaths were attributable to Covid. This would take the covid deaths down from about 180,000 to about 10,000. Trump retweeted the  tweet and the MSM came down on him like a ton of bricks. I recommend watching the complete video….it gives you an idea of what they are actually doing. This guy knows his stuff:

When Is CoronaVirus Not Your Worst Pandemic? John Cullen Reveals A Stunning Breakthrough..!!!

Live streamed on Sept 1st

UK Column News – 20th July 2020

UK Column News – 20th July 2020

 

Brian Gerrish, Mike Robinson and David Scott with today’s UK Column News.

START – Russiagate UK continues to build
NCSC are 95% confident that ‘the attacks we investigated came from Russia’…
Russian Ambassador: I don’t believe this story, there is no sense in it (Russian vaccine hack)
BBC’s Andrew Marr suggests to Ambassador that Russia wants to see the UK split up
SNP claims that Russia hacked Scottish independence movement, then helped it…
UK security vetting chief to be moved from MoD to the cabinet office
UK government’s propaganda network – another look
Russiagate and the Skripal affair: all the Queen’s men
US Senate Judiciary Committee releases declassified transcript of FBI’s primary source interview
Document reveals primary source of Steele’s reporting not Russian but an employee of Steele’s firm
Bill Binney (formerly NSA) to make his case to the world this Thursday 23 July
Russiagate falls completely flat – who is really controlling the UK government…?
23:22 – Brexit: Dominic Cummings sends panic through EU with plot for ‘pure’ no deal Brexit
Deep state trying to deal with President Trump in USA and Brexit in UK…?
A clean break with the EU would be a huge geopolitical move…
27:00 – Face mask pantomime continues – confusion is deliberate to create friction between people
38 Degrees runs campaign to get people wearing face masks
UK Column asks for a copy of the 38 Degrees medical risk assessment…
Asthma UK recognises the dangers of face masks
UK Column viewer sends Email to their MP – doctors refusing to write mask exemption letters
China: two children die after exercising with masks on
UNESCO: Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights – Article 6: Consent
BBC News: CoronaVirus outbreak investigated at Motherwell contact tracing centre
The Times’ Camilla Long: when all this is over there will be a great reckoning…
BBC News promotes vaccines: UK government signs deal for 90 million doses
Government Vaccine Taskforce chair Kate Bingham: we may never get a vaccine…
Bingham: a Managing Partner at SV Health Investors (a hedge fund making money from suffering)
SV Health Investors: another one working with Bill Gates
46:47 – OFCOM still trying to regulate the internet: video sharing platforms now under scrutiny
This is being driven by political motivation and the desire to control ideas
51:45 – 75% of children who received vaccines in Mexican town now dead or hospitalised
Twitter disallows sharing a link to the story on Natural News website…
Natural News: children vaccinated with flu shot have a 440% increase in risk of respiratory viruses
Twitter doesn’t want you to know about these stories
55:02 – First, Nightingale hospitals now Nightingale Courts: no recording or juries…?

 

UK Column News – 15th July 2020

UK Column News – 15th July 2020

 

Brian Gerrish, Mike Robinson and Alex Thomson with today’s UK Column News.

START – Huawei cancelled
What has caused this decision…? The US is the primary driver
The Mark Sedwill crowd put Huawei in place originally
GCHQ cyber security team expressed concerns and were allegedly silenced
09:18 – Mask moaners
PrimaryDoctor.org – masks are neither effective nor safe: a summary of the science
WHO: widespread use of masks by healthy people is not yet supported by scientific evidence
BBC – CoronaVirus: why attitudes to masks have changed around the world
BBC again fails to report facts but promotes the opinion of Masks4All
UK Column asks for a copy of Masks4All Medical Risk Assessment on wearing of masks
Birmingham: revealed – 16 care homes given £1000 to take Covid-positive hospital patients
Where was the Precautionary Principal…?
UK Column article: Lockdown deaths, not Covid deaths
20:15 – Netherlands: further draconian regulations introduced – public protest follows
Fascism rising: Dutch police appear to be deliberately provoking a riot…
Germany: soldiers go door-to-door and force CoronaVirus tests on public
The new normal: lockdowns to continue indefinitely
30:16 – EU Defence Union – the end…?
UK and USA in talks: joint modernisation of British and US Armies
Is this a realignment away from the EU…?
Chatham House: why the UK has taken Foreign Policy out of Brexit negotiations
There are two forms of elitism involved…
39:23 – Bristol: Edward Colston statue is replaced by unofficial sculpture of BLM protestor
BBC and national media promotes statue’s ‘artist’ – meet Marc Quinn
Peter Whittle: if this is allowed to stand, then the triumph of mob rule will be complete
Dealing with a mob: don’t follow them…
45:28 – New York Times – Tom Cotton: send in the troops…article causes chaos
A toxic self-censorship environment exists in media, universities, schools, government
50:06 – London Evening Standard: Commons church runs out of money for Sunday services
51:12 – BBC: how to talk about conspiracy theories
Spectacular misleading ‘advice’ and propaganda from the BBC…

 

 

UK Column News – 13th July 2020

UK Column News – 13th July 2020

 

 

Mike Robinson, Patrick Henningsen and David Scott with today’s UK Column News.

START – Good cop, bad cop: mask confusion continues
Scotland: face coverings must be worn in Scotland’s shops and public transport
Susan Michie (SAGE): …but that’s not enough
Masks: a voluntary code unless you don’t comply…
No risk assessment is available from government on wearing of masks
Royal Society President: face masks should be seen in same way as wearing seatbelts
Why is this policy being so heavily pushed in the UK and USA…?
US virologist didn’t have CoronaVirus after weeks of daily NBC (fake) news updates…
Peter Hitchens: forget face masks and fear – let’s relax and accept the risk
How deadly is the CoronaVirus in reality…?
Testing rises: Florida breaks US CoronaVirus record for most new cases in a day
Florida’s new case numbers have been significantly inflated in recent weeks
BuryFreePress: Suffolk CoronaVirus infection rate one of the lowest in England
Public Health England takes steps to avoid any further double-counting errors…
Matt Hancock: by acting collectively to test & trace, we will keep Covid cornered
By ‘protecting the NHS’, government has ended up killing people by shutting it down
Hancock enjoying his ‘swift and silent’ powers to remove individuals for screening…
Serbian government caves to public pressure and cancels new lockdown
Ireland to impose quarantine on incoming travellers
Areas and regions are creating their own unique rules to prevent freedom of movement
The China model is coming: fully automated medical mass surveillance
34:26 – Covid culture: pub PPE confusion
Treated like a herd of cattle: Cornwall pub installs electric fence at the bar
Meanwhile, US government deficit for June: $863 billion in a month…MSM ignores it
39:02 – Ian R. Crane crowdfunding donations continue to rise
39:33 – Councils prepare massive cuts in jobs & services after losing cash on investments
Shades of the Icelandic banking crash losses – when will this end…?
Councils using hidden reserves from Council Tax payments to gamble with public money
43:11 – Brexit: the UK transition – check – change – go
£750 million investment to be made in UK borders
47:00 – Turkey’s Hagia Sophia cathedral museum to become a mosque
21 Wire article: Turkey’s 6th religious council – dawn of a sharia-compliant new Turkey
Plenty of mishief can be wrought in this area by the EU…
54:57 – Ireland: protests against mass-sexualisation of children & new children’s minister
The creeping normalisation of paedophilia

 

 

Analysis of a Prophecy Event in 2020

Analysis of a Prophecy Event in 2020

The following blog post analyzes the 2020 live streamed prophecy event. The event was broadcast from South Australia (Adelaide), UK (Rugby), Canada (Ontario) and again the UK (Mumbles). It had 6,983 views by June 8th. The whole event including readings etc was 6 hours long. A rather awkward format making it difficult to find the relevant sections.

https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98

The Event has been split into four talks (below) and I have added time-stamped links
for ease of reference if you want to check the original context (you will need to copy and paste into your browser). The main points of each talk are analyzed and I have added extra comments links and material below each video. The videos below are smaller and only 15fps better quality versions will be posted on BitChute in the next few days. The Channel can be found here: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/fZpg7oYHsH4B/
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TALK 1: The Power and Authority of Jesus Christ in the World Today

– talk starts https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=1340
– Jesus & AD70 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=3207
– 70 week prophecy &Dan 9 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=3440
– AD 96 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=3855

NOTES:

The Seventy Prophecy: https://www.biblaridion.info/daniel/danhtml/dch16.html#P243
The Scroll: https://www.biblaridion.info/html/ch5.html#P70
The Seals: https://www.biblaridion.info/html/ch6.html#P83

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TALK 2: Faith in the last days: Belief in the fulfillment of Bible prophecy over the last five hundred years


-talk starts https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=6362
– the year 1848 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=6465
-the Protesters Alan Eyre https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=6724
Manasseh Ben Israel https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=7501
– David Chytraeus the 1260 Days https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=8301
-Prophecy fulfilled https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=9027

NOTES:

errata: I say the Russian-Jewish war instead of the Russian-Japanese war (my bad) however, in some sense it was a Russian-Jewish war because it was funded by the Jews. They didn’t particularly like Russia and it was not long before the Revolution was launched and religion (=Christianity) was banned.

Large Image of the time line: https://www.biblaridion.info/video/Timeline.png
History of the period: http://www.biblaridion.info/video/Jacob_guile.pdf
The Brexit Prophecy: https://www.biblaridion.info/video/Brexit.mp4

Citation: The first became popular from the mid 1970s with the publication of Alan Eyre’s book, The Protesters. This is the idea that the truth didn’t completely disappear between the first and nineteenth centuries, but was actually preserved from generation to generation amongst small faithful remnant groups. These groups, like the Bereans of old and like John Thomas, searched the Scriptures “independently” and rejected the doctrines of Christendom. They were little known because they were persecuted and their writings suppressed. But nevertheless, the Truth lived on and Christadelphians are the modern heirs of that legacy. Eyre’s book primarily focused on the Anabaptists and their views on baptism and the nature of the church, with an implication that their doctrines overall were very similar to those of Christadelphians — at least the main ones. The latter part of the book discusses the rise of unitarianism and concludes with John Thomas and “the Faith at the End of the Age.” The preface praises Eyre’s work, to which the small community of Christadelphians is indebted, for “It is a matter of great encouragement to us, whose religious views are regarded as unorthodox by our contemporaries, to find that in a number of cases where major doctrines are concerned, these early believers had come to the same conclusions as ourselves.”

There’s just one problem. The groups of “devout believers” discussed in the book shared hardly any doctrines in common with Christadelphians. The Anabaptists were Trinitarian and the unitarians had differing views on the nature of Christ, as well as other doctrines. The same unitarian forebears are claimed by groups significantly different from Christadelphians. None of these early “believers” would be welcome in fellowship with Christadelphians today. In fact, there is no extant evidence of any group, fellowship or denomination, or even prominent teacher, who subscribed to the majority of the Christadelphian corpus of beliefs, until the mid 1900s. Not Wycliffe, Hus or Tyndale, not the Vaudois, not the Waldenses or the Cathari. Not Servetus, not the Anabaptists or the Mennonites, not even the Socinians (although they were closest in their antitrinitarian views). The island is isolated, it is not part of a chain.
https://ruthiesutcliffeblog.wordpress.com/tag/christadelphians/

A day for a year interpretive principle: https://www.biblaridion.info/video/principle.pdf

See the LAST THINGS web page for more information on Gog/Magog and Ezekiel 38 https://www.biblaridion.info/html/Last_Things.html

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TALK 3: Israel among the nations: “Behold, the people shall dwell alone!”

-talk starts https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=11645
-Num 23:8-9 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=11714
-Deut 32:8-9 https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=11771
-Coronavirus Passover https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=12106
-Rabbi interview https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=12283
-Elijah https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=15127

NOTES:

Errata: Balaam was at least 2,500 years before Bar Kochba (brain short circuit as I do not script these videos).

"I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: 
there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out
of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all
the children of Sheth" (Num 24:17).

How Numbers 24:17 was used to promote the false Messiah in AD 132: The Shema and Bar Kochba: the false messiah and 666 https://www.biblaridion.info/resources/kzb.pdf

Bar Kochba the ultimate muscular Jewish hero: from false messiah to Zionist icon
https://www.biblaridion.info/blog/bar-kochba-the-ultimate-muscular-jewish-hero-from-false-messiah-to-zionist-icon/

Deut 32 and Ezekiel 38 see page 338 http://www.biblaridion.info/html/ch19.html

Deut 32 and Rev 16 page 324 http://www.biblaridion.info/html/ch16.html

The Babylonian Talmud

"And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: 
and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base".
(Zech 5:11)

Wickedness in Shinar: Rabbinic Judaism established in Babylon
https://www.biblaridion.info/resources/shinar.pdf

John the Baptist as Elijah

"But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have
done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him".
(Mk 9:13)

John in Malachi http://www.biblaridion.info/Prita_Malachi.png

Elijah ministry http://www.biblaridion.info/Anthology/ungodliness.pdf

Netanyahu reported to say legal system based on Talmud
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-reported-to-say-legal-system-based-on-talmud/

Educate yourself on the Talmud and on Israel: I dare you to watch:
Yossi Gurvitz: When Israel Is Mighty 
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7VeKIOD6ktPS/

The Talmud Verified
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CrgCdzMcqgCY/

The Kabbalah and the tree of death is even worse:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JDIsYxKeGHMG/

THE ZOHAR
New Star to Appear in Night Sky, Heralding Balaam’s Prophecy of Messiah
By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/81808/new-star-appear-night-sky-heralding-balaams-prophecy-messiah/
This is a Christian-Zionist website and it is quoted here (by Christadelphians):
https://sites.google.com/site/prophecyletters2013/home/other-items-2020#TOC-New-Star-to-Appear-in-Night-Sky-
What next? Shall we start giving Kabbalah classes and circumcise ourselves?

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TALK4: “Before Him went the pestilence” Epidemic Diseases and Bible Prophecy

-talk starts https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=17092
-the new age of epidemics https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=17222
-the origin of covid https://youtu.be/qP_RvCjVJ98?t=17584

 

NOTES:

Watch the video: Are our scientists lying to us? See the following:

https://www.biblaridion.info/blog/the-smoking-gun-prra/

If anyone is in doubt as to the corruption of the CDC and WHO there is plenty of evidence on my blog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

UK Column News – 1st June 2020

UK Column News – 1st June 2020

Brian Gerrish, Mike Robinson and David Scott with today’s UK Column News, bringing you the latest Coronavirus updates.

START – Join the legal challenge to the UK government lockdown
SAGE minutes – 7 May: the introduction of bubbles is not straightforward…
Paul Chaplin: lockdown Boris violated SAGE advice
Who is secretly governing the UK…?
Some schools are reopening today – MainStream Media still peddling confusion
What happens when children are brought up to believe human contact is dangerous…?
Venus Gym (Renfrewshire, Scotland) forced to shut down
Disabled people who rely on exercise or physiotherapy are struggling
Guidelines, rules, laws…? Threats being used…
14:19 – Top lawyer says trials should be held without juries during pandemic
Sir Richard Henriques led the trials in James Bulger and Harold Shipman cases
Henriques also led investigation into Met Police conduct on historical child abuse
Juries are our protection against an overbearing state…
UK Column still unable to find out who appoints the Judicial Appointments Commission
18:58 – Many organisations helping government with Track & Trace app
USA: Minnesota now using contact tracing to track protestors as demonstrations escalate
What happens to the data collected from tracing apps…?
Virus benefits: personal income in the US shot up a record 10.5% in April 2020
The real economy no longer seems to matter…
Sweden sees economic growth in the first quarter despite global pandemic
27:15 – Sajid Javid: we must expose the hidden horror of child abuse under lockdown
Thames Valley Police extremely concerned with a 500% increase since lockdown
More social workers to be placed in schools…?
Javid to lead ‘no holds barred’ investigation into child abuse in Britain
31:26 – Masks: government urges people in England to wear masks in confined areas
Many medical experts warn of the dangers of masks – was any risk assessment done…?
BBC Future: why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus
The only solutions seem to be big government solutions…
German official leaks report denouncing Corona as ‘a global false alarm’
Government lockdown statistics and spin…but why – cock-up or deliberate…?
Telegraph: we appear to be blindly accepting an insidious denial of our liberties
Janet Daley: should free society tolerate introduction of ‘witch-finder’ surveillance…?
50:00 – Brexit negotiations resume tomorrow
No negotiating group for military, security and defence…
The Northern Ireland backstop has not gone away

Carmagedon

Carmagedon

The UK is going to abolish all petrol and diesel cars in the next 15 years. This is a policy likely to be adopted globally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51366123

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The UK is also urged to reconsider its 5G decision:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/02/04/huawei-us-lawmakers-urge-uk-parliament-to-reject-dangerous-5g-decision/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is going on?

These are the policies we might expect from a left-wing globalist government not from a right-wing Anglo-Zionist government.  The abolishing of the fossil fuel car industry and the adoption of Chinese 5G run counter to the Anglo-Zionists strategy. On top of this we might add that the UK is still part of EU defense Union and therefore not as “sovereign” as many people would like to think.  So either this government is a Trojan horse or we are seeing the outworking of the Hegelian dialectic. Can we expect Trump to follow the same route?  Somehow I doubt it because that would mean the end of the petrodollar. However, perhaps Trump is just controlled opposition. Whatever happens the future is bleak.

Rule Britannia

Of course, the abolition of the fossil fuel car industry will simply mean that most people end up without cars. People who think that they will simply switch to electric are kidding themselves. Tesla for example has been hugely subsidized (also electric cars are not as “environmental” as most people think). And what about flights?  The simple fact is this will mean that most ordinary people will no longer drive or fly. Moreover, the changeover will be extremely disruptive during the aftermath of “Brexit”.

I am sorry but the UK is a ruined country unless people get their act together. The Labor party was destroyed by antisemitism charges and the Royal Family compromised by Epstein and Megxit.   The UK is run by the square mile in London and the square mile is run by the banks.   You have been conned.  I wonder who is behind it all?  I wonder.

 

New World Order

These people may seem dumb but they are really smart and their strategy is on track.  They have you all fighting each other about the climate (LOL) something none of you can change.  And the banks volunteer to step in and save you with their green agenda.    They want you to voluntarily create your own prison.    You are doing it to yourself (LOL). 

 

The Brave New World

Did you honestly think that 7 billion people would drive cars, fly planes, have good food and instant heat and light?  The future is that you will be herded into mega surveillance cities.  You will be watched and monitored. Transport will be limited. Breeding will require a license. You will eat synthetic food and have a basic universal income and a controlled digital currency.   However, first the population must be drastically reduced and the economy decimated. Some would say that has already started.  All a conspiracy?  Yeah….think 9/11….think Epstein….think virus.   You are being prepared for an elite to rule over you.  You thought that you were free and lived in democracies?   Who is the conspiracy nutter now?