Room 911

Room 911

Here are a number of  one minute truth videos from Mark at Housatonic.  I will create a tag for his material as he his one of the good guys.  This is part of a growing internet base of open source intelligence.  They cannot and will not stop us investigating and revealing the truth.  There is more to come.  Gradually I am filtering all the grifters, the money grubbers, the con men the IIA agents and the controlled opposition out of my website.  We need to have a laser like focus now and expose them all.

 The ones to follow are Brendon O’Connell, Dr. Keven McCairn and Mark from Housatonic which has a great research page and brilliant videos. A top grade researcher who finds archived newspaper articles etc and does deep dives. His website:

https://sites.google.com/a/housatonicits.com/home/

His Research page has a name index and you can look up people in order to find the connections. What is happening now runs very deep and has been planned for decades.   I have just watched 8 hrs of video that blew my mind and I will attempt to condense into an accessible short format for my blog.

Stay away from Room 911

The first one minute video talks about the 2002–2004 SARS outbreak  from about 10 years ago which was spread by the anonymous Chinese-American Johnny Chen (think here of John Doe) who caught it from a couple staying in room 911.  They are mocking you.  This was obviously a practice run but first SARS pandemic got cut short for some reason.  Probably needed to fear program the dumb goy a bit more…because people just shrugged it off.

 

 

On 21 February, Liu and his wife checked into room 911 on the ninth floor of the Metropole Hotel in Hong Kong. Chinese-American Johnny Chen caught it and carried carried to Hanoi, Vietnam, where he died on 13 March (infected 38 staff members)

The Wikipedia entry can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%932004_SARS_outbreak

One minute Truths

We remember Johnny Chen, the Snohomish County Man equivalent from SARS1

So much smoke we don’t know if it’s from a gun or from a clam bake gone wrong

Moderna mRNA vax factory construction started July 2018 – they were planning on Zika vax (ya right)

Fast tracked Zika mRNA vaccine … right around prep time for 2019 military games in Wuhan …

It’s like the point of the pandemic was making gene therapy the new standard

Why did this have to happen?

The Zika narrative made it all possible

Valera Moderna

I suspect Valera was doing mRNA vax research on HIV-1 since 2017 (helpful, presumably, for CV19)

I said Heymann nice shot, mRNA makes a good shot man, Heymann nice shot! Unleash your panic on man!

Dr Xiangguo Qiu was a lead on the Ebola vaccine in 2014/2015 and worked directly with Fauci

Qui is missing. Plummer is dead. Fauci is alive and demanding to jab your kids. Who do you trust?

Chabad and Covid

Chabad and Covid

When a supremacist organization with a chip on their shoulder starts talking about healing the world then it is time to get worried.  This is one of my videos using a compilation of other videos and clips from different sources.

 

 

Show notes

Thread about Jewish pharma CEO’s: 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1349343689722781704.html

There was a rather frightening comment left (almost immediately) under the Bitchute version of my video with a lot of links to scientific papers (some of which I was already aware) about magneto DNA and SPIONS. I have not repeated them here because I need to examine them and I do not want to unduly scare people. This technology exists and I think it will be used for control….any deaths are in their view (probably) unfortunate side effects, although it is becoming more and more likely that the elderly and infirm were deliberately targeted.

Elderly targeted

This confirms what I said in my previous video.  The elderly were deliberately targeted (good article):

 

Meat Robots

Meat robots is my term for their so called “bio-digital” convergence.  These people are nuts. They literally want to transform humans into something else. They think in completely materialist terms. We are just the end product of a number of chemical-biological -physical processes. Nothing special…and therefore these processes can be changed at will.  According to them human consciousness is a mere byproduct of the various processes.

Do all roads lead to Wuhan?

Do all roads lead to Wuhan?

A good show by Del Bigtree demonstrating that all roads led to Wuhan.  While that might be true it is an oversimplification. The virus got released (it was no accident) just as the banking system started its slow motion collapse.  It was on Sept 18 th 2019 that the Federal reserve started REPO and I told my son then that we would soon have millions of unemployed and financial collapse.   Conveniently (for them) a “virus”  suddenly “appeared” and thankfully they had already war gamed it in Event 201.  They are so far-sighted (lol).  However, it looks like they had to bring the whole virus agenda forward and it looks like some world leaders were (at first) reluctant until they had the riot act read to them. 

So, to blame it all on China is just another distraction.  Yes, China was deeply involved but they are also being used. Fauci was involved with reconstructing H1N1 and with gain of function. Work has been ongoing for a number of years. Of course the excuse that is used is that it was not Covid 19 (Sars Cov-2) but other (similar) types of coronavirus (different strains of Sars).   That is like the police invading a chop shop looking for a particular model with stolen parts added and finding different cars all stripped down with the parts missing and the car thief claiming that it must be a coincidence. He tells the police to read the fact checkers (lol).

The American patent “US2006257852” and the European patent “EP3172319B1” (later shown as “EP3172319A1”). The patent numbers listed are  for SARS, caused by SARS-CoV (or SARS-CoV-1), not for COVID-19, caused by SARS-CoV-2. They can be publicly viewed on Google here ( US2006257852A1 is a synonym for patent US2006257852, here ) , here and here . Both mention “SARS-CoV” multiple times but have no mention of “SARS-CoV-2”, the new strain causing COVID-19. The Pirbright Institute, mentioned in the video as owning the European patent, has secured funding by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which it also lists as a major stakeholder.

So, that is OK then.Nothing to see here…move along.

They dug the original H1N1 out of the frozen ground and reconstructed it in 2005. Everybody was working on it. There were numerous strains with numerous patents.  There was an incident at Fort Detrick.  There was stuff going on in North Carolina. Fauci was involved with funding Wuhan. They game planned it in Event 201. They had the military games in Wuhan just before the outbreak.   However, it was a “natural” virus or an “accident” (with exquisite timing).

They really think you are that stupid.

And unfortunately they are largely correct because everyone is lining up to get “vaccinated”.

Who is behind the virus?

I have produced a video showing you that the virus is malware and it has been signed. Hackers always sign their malware. The cabal behind this deception believe they are untouchable and incredibly intelligent. Bill Gates produced software viruses when he was at college.  Let us add some more “coincidences” Trump’s uncle John G. Trump together with Loomis (founder of Cornell Medical) was were Fauci graduated in 1966.  Microwave research was progressed in the US at MIT under Loomis and Trumps Uncle . It was Trump himself that signed 5G into law and it was his uncle who back then was involved with the microwave research project.  So we come full circle. Just like AG Barr Locking up Epstein while Barr’s father hired him as a teacher. There are too many coincidences. All these people know each and work together.  There is a powerful global cabal driving  the agenda but at the root is a  banking cartel that has increased its reach for the last five hundred years and was behind the  Bolshevik revolution, the establishment of Israel and the opening up of China. They have had a hand in both world wars and are now breaking up the USA and establishing their forward fire base Israel as the center of their one world “Belt and Road” beast system.   Russia and China are their “golem” creations to scare the West but now they are using fear of a virus to destroy the West and especially to destroy Christianity. It is the ultimate in Pharmacology (sorcery). 

So, watch the HighWire Video and then watch my video Batman and the goy-wonder

Batman and the goy-wonder

Mortality data

Mortality data

During this breaking MUST ATTEND presentation, Joel Smalley (MBA, Quantitative Analyst) unpacks the mortality during the Pandemic in England and explores what impact Covid-19 has had upon overall mortality amongst other key factors that must be considered in evaluating the impact of the Pandemic.

Joel Smalley is an experienced quantitative analyst who is also a member of HART, a group of UK doctors, scientists, economists, psychologists and other academic experts, and PANDA – Pandemic Data & Analytics, where both organisations independetly seek to widen the debate in order to formulate an exit strategy that benefits everyone in society.

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UK Column News – 25th September 2020

UK Column News – 25th September 2020

0:44 Conflict of interests
Patrick Vallance has 6k shareholding in vaccines
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4:20 Big Pharma advising government
They are all compromised
Imperial college and Welcome Trust
funded (or connected) to the Bill and Melinda gates Foundation
Sir Patrick Vallance CSO former head of GSK
Chris Whitty CMO board member of Gates funded CEPI vaccine coalition
Kate Bingham on board of DDF investment
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9:02 T Cells Immunity
We already have herd immunity
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11:52 Matt Hancock- THEY ADMIT
Government strategy all about vaccines
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12:59 Conversation in the United States
Dr Scott Atlas head of CoronaVirus task force
90% are NOT SUSCEPTIBLE ANYMORE
There is T Cell immunity
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15:05 Believe the science
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16:52 Nest of Vipers….Chris Whitty
@CoronavirusPlu2
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18:15 NHS app -track and trace
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21:46 The contact tracing app is not mandated (yet)
mixed messages
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23:17 Rishi Sunak
Chancellor of the exchequer
Job support scheme from November
Only 22% paid by gov
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26:19
Institute for Government
Only save some jobs
GREEN INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
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27:29 Mark Carney former Governor BOE
If you are on the wrong side you will go bankrupt
No credit extended
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29:42 2 Trillion debt
100% of GDP
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33:00 Students lockdown for Xmas
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37:33 Updated infection fatality -survial rates for Covid19.
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39:42 90% of Coronavirus tests are not fale positives
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41:40 false Positives
Prof Carl Heneghan – false positives could be as high as 50%
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42:45 Are they right? Yes…but…(ha, ha)
Being disingenuous
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47:39 Hospital admissions
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51:27 When is covid Covid?
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54:24 Boris Johnson

Two minute out takes for Twitter

Deception

Deception

This video and letter was the result of a very disappointing visit to my church which refused me the opportunity to speak after the close of the service.  Apparently I had not approached in the right way even though I  introduced myself and announced that I wanted to speak a few words.   Perhaps I should have given “advance” notice so that they could have politely refused, after all they have refused to honor my request to present a subject at study conferences. And why is that? Well people only want to hear what confirms their own biases…in the words of Jeremiah:

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jer 5:31) 

 Procedure

I was asked to leave Adelaide meeting yesterday because I wanted to address
the brethren and sisters after the exhortation. Apparently I should have asked before hand
even though we know in the past that if brethren and sisters had a word of prophecy or exhortation they would stand up and tell the congregation. I was told the following:

We are given a scriptural basis for the appropriate method of addressing a meeting.
Act 13:15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.
Act 13:16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.

Paul was addressing a Jewish synagogue not the body of Christ..…as far as I know we are not yet a synagogue although we might as well be.


The only thing Paul instructs even regarding the speaking of tongues is that it be done for edifying.


"How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying".
(1 Cor 14.6)


So, I will not be silenced even if you want to stop your ears. And you will not use “procedure” to stop me speaking. I am not a member of a single meeting or of a Jewish synagogue but a member of the Body of Christ. We have been called to the,


"general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect"
(Heb 12.23)

So, mark this well…..neither you or the Government or any power will stop me speaking the truth and you will certainly not excuse it on the grounds of “procedure”.

 

This is my response:

 This is my letter:

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Resources

Here are some resources for those who care to educate themselves rather than continue with the lies.

COVID-19: The Spearpoint for Rolling Out a “New Era” of High-Risk, Genetically Engineered Vaccines

The use of fear as a weapon

They have used Fear to make you comply.  Why are you afraid like Adam and Eve?   Why are you hiding in denial?

Fear of Death

 

Who is behind the virus?

 

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Computational biology

Computational biology

If you get this warning when you click on the Zero Hedge link please ignore it.  It is a deliberate scare tactic by Google so that you will self-censor. More dirty tricks.

 

Computational biology, which includes many aspects of bioinformatics, is the science of using biological data to develop algorithms or models in order to understand biological systems and relationships. Until recently, biologists did not have access to very large amounts of data.I t involves the development and application of computational, mathematical and data-analytical methods for modeling and simulation of biological structures.

I find this merging of data and information with “biology” very interesting. The assumption is that they were working towards a vaccine but what if they were working to expose the truth behind the virus.  A lot of people would not want that to come out. This was no accident.

Kawasaki Disease

An article on the mysterious Kawasaki disease which has now also appeared in the  USA among children: Mysterious Coronavirus-Linked Syndrome Spreads From London To New York


Of course, the use of the term “spreads” is a leading term making the reader think of an  infectious disease that can be caught. However, Kawasaki disease is nothing other than toxic shock syndrome or a cytokine storm which is the bodies defense mechanism gone wrong. It is an auto immune response and it is perfectly plausible that this was brought on by 5G as discussed in a previous article here.

The problem is that we have multiple competing mechanisms to explain Covid.  Some are saying it is a complete pysyop (e.g., Icke) and that the virus does not even exist in reality. In support of this is the strange way it codes to 72 and the multiple simulations that were run in advance of the actual disease breaking out and the fact that it has never been isolated using Koch’s principles.  The Covid symptoms could then all be related to 5G or influenza and this mistake can be attributed to false positive testing and inflated morbidity reporting. A virus can only replicate inside a living host. A virus is dead material. Some argue that the virus is the bodies own response – it is produced by the bodies immune system (not externally). They are called exosomes whose function is to mop up all toxins. It is (in my view) plausible that a person undergoing such a cytokine storm might exude quantities of these exosomes that trigger a reaction in other people (i.e., they catch the “virus”).

Another  mechanism is natural emergence. However, that would take hundreds of years and probability rules out the chance combination of these zoonotic diseases. Natural emergence  can be discounted as implausible because we know that military labs in different countries were all working on corona and it seems to be an “ensemble” of different viruses.

So that leaves the virus as a lab manufactured bio-weapon.  However, as we have previously indicated we see no problem with accommodating more than one mechanism. It is the perfect way to muddy the waters and deliver multiple overlapping symptoms and fulfill multiple agendas.  The roll out of 5G, the roll out of vaccinations, the crashing of the economy…. etc, etc.  If viruses are actually exosomes then it must be possible to isolate zoonotic material and recombine the RNA proteins etc to make a more pathogenic strain.  So, I leave the question open and keep my mind open to all possibilities because I know that something strange is going on. Computational biologists don’t just suddenly start murdering each other. Strange toxic shock disease does not suddenly start appearing. And a “virus” does not compute to the number 72 by accident. Especially as God’s name is linked in Kabbalah to 72 angels (with corresponding 72 demons) and the masonic compass is coincidentally (sic) open at an angel of 72 degrees.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Competing theories

Here we place the two most prominent explanations side by side without feeling the need to chose between them. Who says that it is either/ or?  The fact is that we are facing lies and propaganda on multiple fronts. It is a deliberate strategy to keep you confused, frightened and off balance. The pandemic is obviously very well planned as we know they have run multiple simulations. It is not some vast conspiracy as the outworking has been compartmentalized and most of the medical fraternity is simply following the guidelines or working on projects for which funding  has been allocated. Many doctors are themselves starting to question what is going on.  It is the military research labs, the NGO’s and the supra national organizations that are the root of the problem.

*The video links below will need to be copied and pasted if you want to watch them as they are not hyperlinked to prevent loading.

The virus and vaccine theory

We have been deeply, profoundly & repeatedly lied to…

Cellular and molecular biologist Judy Mikovits, Ph.D. believes COVID-19 — the disease — is NOT caused by SARS-CoV-2 ALONE, but rather that it’s the result of a COMBINATION of SARS-CoV-2 and XMRVs (human gammaRETROviruses).
SARS-CoV-2 has LIKELY been manipulated to include components of HIV that destroys immune function along with XMRVs.
People PREVIOUSLY (unknowingly) INFECTED with XMRVs (retroviruses) VIA knowingly dirty VACCINEs end up getting SERIOUS COVID-19 infectionS and/or die from the disease.
Mikovits’s research suggests more than 30 million Americans carry XMRVs and other gammaretroviruses in their bodies from contaminated vaccines and blood supply.
Mikovits believes 40+YEARs of data suggest Type 1 interferon at very low dose would be an ideal treatment for COVID-19.
RT-PCR (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction) testing, currently used to diagnose active infection by detecting the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genetic material, OVERestimates infection rates. For an accurate account of COVID-19 prevalence, we need to test for ACTUAL ANTIBODIES to SARS-CoV-2.
What we’re facing here is a PLANNEDEMIC SET OF DISEASEs, CAUSED BY vaccines (previously administered to MILLIONs of Americans), into which a genetically modified flu virus acts as a TRIGGER that (based upon the INDIVIDUAL’s prior vaccination history) manifests in the VARIETIES of disease stateS that is seen in the presenting sick patient.
The 50+ year SEPARATION from the vaccines administered to the later introduction of the TRIGGER appears to be one of the reasons why this has caught the medical establishment flat-footed.
This is PURE EVIL intended to MURDER millions using biowarfare.
More can be found #COVID19 is caused by vaccines Dr Judy Mikovits, PhDJason Bainbridge4.2K views1 week ago
Dr Rashid Buttar with Dr Judy Mikovits Discussion about Covid /Cofraud/ScamVid 19 Part 1 & Part 2SlenderMan12K views1 week ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sF4zcVXyA8E
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTAhNeiyji8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=imIiQF3T9hM

Viruses, Exosomes and 5G

He (the murdered Chinese researcher) was most likely on the brink of realizing, like Dr Andrew Kaufman (an independent science researcher), that the so-called covid-19 ‘virus’ was in fact our bodies’ own beneficially healthy EXOSOMES whose function is to mop up all TOXINS (from air pollution, food poisoning etc to stress created toxins).

American Dr Kaufman identified the electron microscope images in the original Wuhan lab scientific papers as EXOSOMES.

Moreover, on scrutinizing these papers thoroughly he discovered that their methodology was pseudo science – at no time did they actually find any virus, nor separate it and purify it, from the lung material as the first step to testing whether it might even be responsible for the 200 sick people connected to the disgustingly unhygienic Wuhan meat market.

I repeat, the Wuhan lab that ‘identified covid-19 virus’ in fact NEVER IDENTIFIED ANY VIRUS let alone isolate and purify said non-existent virus in order to then test on control group to see if this non-discovered virus was or was not responsible for the 200 sick people.

Why did Fauci in 2014 give US$3.7 Million to Wuhan lab? In 2019 he AGAIN gave US$3.7 Million to Wuhan lab ‘TO STUDY FOR CORONA VIRUS’.

In Oct 2019 Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, WHO (Gates personal fiefdom as their largest non-govt donor), World Economic Forum, and John Hopkins financed a ‘SIMULATION FOR A CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC’.

In 2010 (10 years ago) the ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION created a ‘BLUEPRINT FOR A CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC ORIGINATING OUT OF CHINA’ ie the money power who control all the major foundations are working in this scam together with Chinese lab at least, if not with the Chinese govt. Now the money power media is promoting war with China??!!!

Why have hospitals and doctors been advised to fudge the figures ifo a ‘covid-19’ virus cause of death? financially rewarding them to do so.

Why are there no more deaths so far this year than any other year IF this year alone, there is a supposed PANDEMIC? This aone proves there isn’t!! By definition a Pandemic means far more deaths than normal each year.

Why are there no longer any deaths from all the normal causes of death every year (heart attack, stroke, cancer, kidney failure etc etc) NOT EVEN ANY DEATH FROM THE FLU! Yet the flu causes 80,000 deaths every year (US).

Why are so many city hospitals around the world closed and no injured or sick admitted? Yet same hospitals reported on their local news as ‘CHAOTIC’. Individuals with their cameras have filmed the empty hospitals from NY Brooklyn, Dublic Ireland, Germany to Australia. Injured and sick being refused entry. Old people therefore dying in their nursing homes without treatment. This is DE-Population eugenics whilst blaming it on a non-existent ‘virus’.

Even the New York funeral parlors have questioned why all the death certificates state only 1 cause – covid-19 for the first time ever. People have always died and always will – stand up whoever was here 120 years ago. They die from multiple variety of causes and always will. This is a scam!

Why are we being forced all around the world to wear a mask when viruses are so tiny that the pores of the mask are the equivalent of trying to block a mosquito from getting in through open double doors. They are unhygienic and need constant changing. They cause you to breath CO2 out then breath it back in – good for plants, not for humans to inhale.

Learn for yourself the misidentification by the Wuhan Lab who never identified any virus whatsoever:

DR ANDREW KAUFMAN REVEALS TO YOU THE COVID-19 IDENTIFICATION BY WUHAN LAB WAS IN FACT OUR OWN BODIES’ EXOSOMES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=225&v=KGGd7-vvd9Y&feature=emb_logo

The second wave

They are already programing you to accept that there will be a second wave.  This wave will be worse than the first and will require even more drastic measures (lol). People will be begging for their governments to “save them”. The authors of this study appear to be extrapolating a lot of functional activity from a genomic study and chose an attention grabbing title. The claims made in the paper that if the virus is more transmissible the authors thought it may lead to more severe disease is surprising. As it often means the opposite- less virulent viruses commonly have more transmission from asymptomatic cases. Such as SARS2 vs the original SARS.   Usually a pathogen becomes more transmissible and less virulent.  Just think how many colds have you had during your lifetime?   Was each cold progressively worse? Have they found a cure for the common cold yet? It has been estimated that there are over 380 trillion viruses inhabiting us, a community collectively known as the human virome.

 

Lifehacker

 

 

 

 

The word Lifehacker is usually used in a positive sense – it means a short cut to make your life more productive. A silly example might be brushing your teeth under the shower. I use the word in my next video and in the article title in a negative sense. Someone has acted as a Lifehacker by taking away productive time. We have been “hacked” by a virus which is just a form of “malware” and like all hackers they have signed their “creation”. It is not coincidence.

 

 

 

More videos

Below are some more good videos. Interesting to note that Adam mentions Polly and says that she was a big Qanon supporter but is now having some doubts.  He is right about that and I have sent her many tweets telling her that “There are no good guys” and others are also reminding her and she is perhaps reconsidering some things.  I cannot blame people….they want a hero….but do not look to man as they will always disappoint.  Polly does some great research work and is to be supported for that reason but Adam is rightly critical.

 

Israel is an advanced cyber and medical  power. This is probably because of its connections with the USA and with Russia. China is well known for stealing intellectual property but Israel has been doing the same for a long time. Israel always steals from its allies. What is yours is mine and what is mine is mine. (lol)  Adam mentions Ted Cruz wanting the USA to form ever closer ties with the Israeli medical pharma industry. This got sent to me by a fellow Christian in a magazine (Splinters):

 

Researchers at Migal Galilee Research Institute in Kiryat Shmona, Israel, are swiftly preparing a coronavirus vaccine which should be ready for clinical testing in less than 10 weeks, according to the institute’s CEO. David Zigdon had already reported that the researches have been working for about four years toward a vaccine which could be adapted to combat various human viruses, but is now being focused against Covid-19, the human strain of coronavirus. IBV (Infectious Bronchitis Virus), is a disease affecting poultry, and has been the institute’s focus until now. Researchers have successfully made the required genetic adaptations of the vaccine to Covid-19 and are applying their efforts to achieve the safety standards that will allow in-vivo testing (testing in live subjects) to move forward. The vaccine will be administered orally, which will make it easier to access and administer once it is available. <>Jewish News Service

 

Well that is OK then. It might take other countries a year to eighteen months but Israel will be ready with a vaccine in ten weeks.  And it will be oral not invasive like an injection.   Do you see how they did that?  Are you paying attention?  They set up a bogey man (Gates) then offer an alternative solution that is far more palatable (pun intended).  It is such a stroke of luck that they were already working on it.  Israel is also working on tacking systems (for the virus of course). I would bet money on it that it will be smartphone related and not invasive. That is how they operate.  They hold up an unreasonable solution and then offer you an alternative.  Most people will say….its not so bad….we have lots of apps on our phones….all this nonsense about chipping us…baloney.  That is how they operate. Always. Do not be fooled.  They float ideas and measure the opposition then backtrack and adjust the program but they move relentlessly forward (like the Terminator).