Not Chosen response

Not Chosen response

I had a response on my comment on the video (lolz) and I thought it would only be fair to post the response and the response to the response (lolz).  I know how these things go. People become dogmatic and dig their heels in.  Of course the same could be said for me but I hope that I allow the Bible to speak for itself and I encourage everyone to make their own mind up.

Not Chosen

The response from “Gott” (lolz):

Well, this article is completely insane.

You are definitely the first person to ever suggest that Adam blamed God, when he clearly points at the woman and says SHE GAVE ME OF THE TREE:

Gen 3:12 "And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

You say:

"Eve was created before the story of the fall so Adam did not sacrifice himself for her because that is chronologically incorrect."

What is your logic here? Eve would have to be created before in order for my point to exist. Explain your logic.

The fact you are using the Jewish Kabballah to illustrate your point, tells me everything I need to know about your beliefs.

According to your logic regarding the blessings, you also consider Ishmael and Esau as heirs to the blessing of Israel?

If you believe Judah was also promised to become many nations and bless the world, can you show me where it says that? If not, then Ishmael and Esau are also the heirs to Israel's blessing.

You say:

"There is much wrong with this video. The Egyptians had hieroglyphs they did not have an alphabet. The Jews were the first to have an alphabet (proto-Siniatic, Paleo-Hebrew) that was also alpha-numerically linked to Gematria."

The phonetic system where pictures are drawn on paper to represent sounds, is where our alphabet comes from. The word ALPHABET comes from the two first letters in the Hebrew alphabet, but it doesn't change the fact the Hebrews took the Egyptian hieroglyphic system and created their own version. The Egyptians also used their hieroglyphics to represent numbers and to do math. So, I guess your logic is, because the Egyptians didn't call it the alefbet, therefore it didn't come from Egypt?

This is evidence that the Israelites were in Egypt, so it is perplexing why you disregard it.

1Ki 11:26 And Jeroboam the son of Nebat, an Ephrathite of Zereda, Solomon's servant, whose mother's name was Zeruah, a widow woman, even he lifted up his hand against the king.

You say:

"The video makes fundamental exegetical errors and root word fallacy equating Ephrathite with Ephraimite. They are not the same. Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin. Jacob buried her “on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem)” (Genesis 35:19; cf. 48:7). and in Micah 5:2: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah… demonstrate that Ephrath is a place name (suburb?) closely associated with Bethlehem in the territory of Judah. Moreover there is a woman called Ephrathah who was the second wife of Caleb, son of Hezron, son of Perez, son of Judah. (1 Chron 2:18-19 cf. 1 Chron 2:3-5) It is then likely that she took her name from Ephrath, the place where she was born which is associated with the nearby city of Bethlehem in Judah."

Truly amazing. You completely disregard the fact that you cannot play this game of yours when reading the Bible in Greek or Hebrew.

1Sa 1:1 ויהיH1961 אישׁH376 אחדH259 מןH4480 הרמתים צופיםH7436 מהרH2022 אפריםH669 ושׁמוH8034 אלקנהH511 בןH1121 ירחםH3395 בןH1121 אליהואH453 בןH1121 תחוH8459 בןH1121 צוףH6689 אפרתי׃H673

1Ki 11:26 וירבעםH3379 בןH1121 נבטH5028 אפרתיH673 מןH4480 הצרדהH6868 ושׁםH8034 אמוH517 צרועהH6871 אשׁהH802 אלמנהH490 עבדH5650 לשׁלמהH8010 וירםH7311 ידH3027 במלך׃H4428

Rth 1:2 ושׁםH8034 האישׁH376 אלימלךH458 ושׁםH8034 אשׁתוH802 נעמיH5281 ושׁםH8034 שׁניH8147 בניוH1121 מחלוןH4248 וכליוןH3630 אפרתיםH673 מבית לחםH1035 יהודהH3063 ויבאוH935 שׂדיH7704 מואבH4124 ויהיוH1961 שׁם׃H8033

Absolutely no difference in the Hebrew language, other than the plural is being used in Ruth 1:2.

It's even better in Greek ;)

You now need to explain why Jeroboam from the tribe of Ephraim, born in Zereda, is called the exact same thing as David and Elimelech.

Can you explain to me how Caleb's wife Ephrathah was born and took her name from Ephrath (Bethlehem), when Caleb was alive in Egypt, and was a fighting man with Joshua and Moses? You're saying that after the Exodus, the 40 years in the wilderness, the conquest of Canaan, that Ephrathah was then born, grew up and then became Caleb's wife? Explain your logic and mathematics.

Just because the Bible translators name a city, it doesn't mean the city was called that during the time of Abraham. They will use the modern name of the city for time period they are writing in. Jerusalem wasn't always called Jerusalem, as Rameses was not called Rameses during the time of the Exodus. The translators are clearly using the name of the city for the time period they are writing in.

I do thank for taking the time to write that article and for helping me spread my video. I have full confidence that the majority of people who watch my video and read your article will look at the evidence and see flaws in your argument.

Thank you very much for spreading my work.

Best part of your post:

"After having watched the video I have no confidence that his understanding of Daniel or Revelation is any better ( I have more confidence in Adam Green lolz)."

From quoting the Kabbalah and having more faith in Adam Green, kinda says it all. "LOLZ" What, are you a boomer trying to sound cool?

"It is just silly to say Jews have no right to call themselves Israel (they are all the sons of Israel)"

I guess Isaac is Abraham, and Jacob is Isaac, and we can erase all tribes and people and just merge them into one. It doesn't matter, everyone is related after all. Insane.

 

My reply

These were separate consecutive posts in the YouTube community notes because the comments were disabled.  I have added images to the post which are not in my original reply because you cannot post images  in YT comments but I will place the link to this post in the YT community notes.

I knew it would make no difference whatsoever to someone like you but I have done the article for the benefit of others. I am not going to bother to even argue the points with someone who does not know scripture or history and linguistics.The Jews were the first to have an alphabet with alpha numeric. Pictograms (hieroglyphics) are Logograms and Proto-Siniatic are Abjads which group includes Aramaic and Phoenician from which we get True alphabets like Greek and Latin that have vowels. Abjads do not have vowels which is why the MT text got pointed in about 1000 AD. And Adam did blame God that is clear to anyone who can read…the woman you gave me….in other word your fault…you gave me a woman and she tempted me. I was OK until you made the woman (lolz).

 

And another thing which displays your ignorance is that Gematria is not Kabbalah. Kabbalah is a form of Gnosticism which employs Gematria as a tool. I utterly reject Kabbalah and Gnosticism as evil. I do not reject the Biblical text (which is also used by Kabbalah) nor do I reject Gematria which is obviously built into the text. Following your reasoning I should reject the Hebrew OT because it is used by Kabbalists (lolz). It is like the atom you can use it for nuclear power or making bombs. Kabbalah is evil but Gematria is built into the Bible. You are not a Bible student that much is clear.

 

 

The Hebrew word for wisdom has the standard value 73 and ordinal value 37 and 703 is the 37th Triangular number just as 666 is the thirty sixth triangular number. The value of the whole verse is 37×73 =2701 which is the same value as Gen 8:14 a verse that is about the reset after the flood (the end of a cycle and beginning of a new cycle).   Obviously this is about man (666) being made in the image of God obtaining wisdom.  However wisdom comes from God not from the Serpent (Kabbalah-Gnosticism).  The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom…and perfect love rules out fear. 

PS. The Bible clearly says…. “Jacob buried her (Rachael)on the way to Ephrath ,that is, Bethlehem” in Genesis 35:19; cf. 48:7). So you are ignoring the clear account of scripture. And your contortions to prove that Obed is really from Ephraim (=half Egyptian) are frankly laughable. It completely ruins the whole point of Ruth. The time is short before this cycle ends. Let go of human pride and revise your material. You obviously have given it a lot of thought and your work can be put to good use if pushed in the right direction. The direction you are taking the “ten tribes” is reminiscent of British Israelitism and Mormonism that has caused so much damage and was pushed by the Rabbis.. The Gentiles are really Jews (lolz) the ten lost tribes. No they are not.

And by the way Caleb the Kenizzite inherited Hebron (Joshua 14: 6-15) and Bethlehem is only 30 km away. Completely plausible that he married a woman from Bethlehem (Ephratha).

And one last thing. The ten tribes a subset of Israel and often called Ephraim or Israel were removed because they were disobedient and faithless. In fact they were accused of constantly turning back to Egypt. They were not scattered to convert the Gentiles. The preaching of the Gospel by the disciples converted the Gentiles. Your whole theory of the “Israelite” being the ten tribes and being “chosen” and the Jews (Judah) being the fake Israelite (from which the messiah came lolz) falls flat on its face.

 

Not Chosen

Not Chosen

Having watched the the video (which was recommended to me) I decided to feature it again so that I could debunk it.

 

About the only thing I agree with in this video is the statement that Adam Green does not know his Bible but then neither does this guy (lolz). His exegesis is superficial and plain wrong. We start the debunk with the Adam and Eve Creation story at about 40 mins were he states that Adam blames Eve and sacrifices himself for Eve. Adam does not blame Eve he blames God (lolz) as in the woman that YOU GAVE ME…(Gen 3:12) and in turn the woman blamed the serpent. So we see the classic blame game but Adam clearly blames God in contrast with Jesus who lost none that God HAD GIVEN HIM (John 18:9). In Gen 2:21 Eve was created before the story of the fall so Adam did not sacrifice himself for her because that is chronologically incorrect. It is true that Adam was not deceived (1 Tim 2:13-14) which makes him more culpable (not less). He wanted to know what would happen so he observed the “experiment” and (seemingly) nothing bad happened. The differences between the creation accounts is deliberate and the so-called contradiction between the different creation accounts in Gen 1:27 and Gen 2:7 has recently been debunked in my article on First and Last Adam.

The main thesis of his video is that the Jews are not chosen. In order to demonstrate this he makes a distinction between Israel and Judah with Ephraim being the son of Joseph by an Egyptian wife. The tribe of Ephraim (a grandchild of Jacob) became synecdoche for the ten northern tribes and it is dichotomous to regard Israel as an exclusive term as it sometimes refers to all twelve tribes of Israel including Judah (Gen 49:28, Exod 24:4, Josh 3:12, Ezek 47:13, Luke 22:30) and at other times it refers to Ephraim (as representative of the the ten tribes) with the exclusion of Judah and Benjamin. So it is disingenuous to juxtapose Israel with Judah because Judah is a subset of Israel. It is therefore a flexible term. They are all tribes of Israel because Jacob (renamed Israel) was their father. The ten tribes of Israel were deported in c.700 to Assyria and dispersed and absorbed the remaining two tribes of Israel (called Judah) remained in the land (1Chron 5:26, 2Kgs 15:29, 2Kgs 17:5-6, 2Kgs 17:23, 2Kgs 18:11). The English term Jew is originally derived from the Hebrew term Yehudi (lit. ’of Judah’), which passed into Greek as Ioudaios and into Latin as Iudaeus, in turn evolving into the Old French term giu after the letter “d” was dropped. Here is a good article on “Two house Theology”

In the video Judah is depicted as the villain although Judah did many things wrong he was certainly not the villain in the story of Joseph (read my article on the tribal blessings). It is true that he suggested selling Joseph into slavery but that was because the other brothers wanted to kill Joseph. Judah convinced them to sell Joseph rather than murder him. Moreover, it is obvious he regretted deceiving his father Jacob because he offered himself as hostage (and his own sons) when it came to recovering Benjamin from Egypt. Benjamin was Joseph’s younger brother and the only remaining son of Rachel. This speaks of deep regret because Judah realized that they had robbed their father of his son Joseph (by his favorite wife Rachel) and now Benjamin the last of Rachel’s sons (on whom Jacob/Israel) doted was in danger of being expunged. The fact that Judah a son of Leah was willing to offer himself for Benjamin this half-brother by Rachel because he took pity on his father speaks volumes. It probably explains why the territory of the tribe of Benjamin is up against the territory of Judah in the south and why they are often both referred to as Judah. There was obviously a special bond between Benjamin and Judah that had historical roots. Moreover, the first king chosen by the people was a Benjamite (Saul) who persecuted the king from Judah chosen by God (David). So the history between Benjamin and Judah is complex demonstrating rivalry and competition but also friendship and loyalty. The house of Saul and the house of David end up making an everlasting covenant.

There is much wrong with this video. The Egyptians had hieroglyphs they did not have an alphabet. The Jews were the first to have an alphabet (proto-Siniatic, Paleo-Hebrew) that was also alpha-numerically linked to Gematria. The Phoenicians and Canaanites (related to the northern Kingdom trough the house of Omri) shared the alphabet and it was adopted and refined by the Greeks who also had an alpha-numeric system.

Ephrathite is not Ephraimite

The video makes fundamental exegetical errors and root word fallacy equating Ephrathite with Ephraimite. They are not the same. Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin. Jacob buried her “on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem)” (Genesis 35:19; cf. 48:7). and in Micah 5:2: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah… demonstrate that Ephrath is a place name (suburb?) closely associated with Bethlehem in the territory of Judah. Moreover there is a woman called Ephrathah who was the second wife of Caleb, son of Hezron, son of Perez, son of Judah. (1 Chron 2:18-19 cf. 1 Chron 2:3-5) It is then likely that she took her name from Ephrath, the place where she was born which is associated with the nearby city of Bethlehem in Judah. When we see people referred to as Ephrathites, it means that they were Judahites from in or near the city of Bethlehem. His argument about the kinsman redeemer (Deut 25:5-6) with reference to Boaz in Ruth is frankly ridiculous as only a blood relative could redeem therefore Elimelech must have been a Judahite and Boaz must have been a Judahite making Obed a descendant of the tribe of Judah not of the tribe of Ephraim. The promise of kingship went through Judah until Shiloh (the messiah) not through Ephraim. Jesus traces his lineage to Abraham through David back to Judah (not to Ephraim).

After having watched the video I have no confidence that his understanding of Daniel or Revelation is any better ( I have more confidence in Adam Green lolz). I suggest that he read my commentary on Daniel and the Apocalypse(Scroll down for Table of contents) . It is just silly to say Jews have no right to call themselves Israel (they are all the sons of Israel) and to say that Israelites became Christians sounds like British Israelitism or Mormoism.  It would have been more fruitful to look at the term “chosen” and examine what it means to be a “kingdom of priests” at which task they utterly failed. It would have been more fruitful to look at the saying of Christ when he declared.. if you were the children of Abraham you would do the works of Abraham (John 8:39). The works of Abraham are works of faith and Israel after the flesh failed. Kinship to the father of faith comes from having the same faith animated by the same works not by blood descent. They are not all Israel which are of Israel. The takeaway is that the Jews are Israelites and they are disobedient.

Assyria

Assyria

Now for something completely different. I watched this to give myself a break from the black-pills and it is extremely good and highly recommended.  You should watch this on a large TV screen and it is even good for a Sunday school class probably for kids above 14 age. This is a 3 hour documentary on Assyria and it is high quality and well scripted video as part of a series about Lost Civilizations it already has half a million views in just over a week.

Early on they ask the question: “What was it like to live at that time and witness the end of your world?”    I thought that was very appropriate because we are a generation that will witness a similar type of upheaval.  They mention that the earliest settlements in the fertile crescent are between 9-12 k years old. That takes us to the last catastrophe cycle and the beginnings of civilization which coincides with our biblical accounts. I believe the Sumerian/Akkadian civilizations came and were followed by the Assyrian which lasted thousands of years.

At 1 hour 22 min the Assyrian king Sennacherib invades Judah. This is the Assyrian invasion of 701 BC in the time of Hezekiah.  The account in the video follows the Biblical history very closely but I would argue that when Hezekiah stripped the Temple as a tribute payment that it was probably done in his name during the period of his sickness.  In any case Sennacherib did not uphold his end of the deal.  The neo-Assyrian Empire features largely during this prophetic period which saw a large flourishing of pre-exilic Biblical literature which forms the basis of the statistical linguistic (stylometric) and exegetical analysis of my commentary Dark Sayings.

Interestingly, at  2 hours 30 mins rapid climate shift is partially blamed for the collapse of the Assyrian Empire. Babylonia at the southern end of the Empire had always been arid and employed irrigation but the North had been very wet for the previous 200 years and then the weather patterns suddenly changed as stalagmite data shows that in 675 BC during  the reign of   Esarhaddon (son of Sennacherib) one of the wettest periods (very fertile) ended in 725 BC just before Ashurbanipal came to the throne drought conditions and economic disadvantage followed but it was the Medes that delivered the coup de grace after the Assyrian genocide of Elam the Medes knew that there was no more check to Assyrian expansionism unless they curbed Assyrian power.

At 2:46 the documentary mentions the prophet Nahum who wrote about the end of the Assyrian Empire, and its capital city, Nineveh, the bloody city, in a vivid poetic style. The Assyrians were cruel and used terror as a policy of state. The Documentary does not mention Jonah who prophesied during the reign of Amaziah of Judah, as mentioned in 2 Kings 14:25 which was probably contemporary with the reign of Adad-nirari III as Edwin R. Thiele dates Amaziah’s reign from 797/796 to 768/767 BC (but on this see Andrew Perry’s dating of Kings). Amaziah was succeeded by Uzziah. Although Jonah is not mentioned a historical account is given of a prophetess of Harran who predicted the downfall of Assyria. Haran (or Harran) in Turkey first appears in Genesis as the home of Terah and his descendants, and as Abraham’s temporary home.

13. The Assyrians – Empire of Iron (3 hours 5 min)

The Biblical period is the Neo-Assyrian Empire (912-609 BC)

mage Name Reign Succession & notes Ref
Adad-nirari II
Adad-nārārī
912 – 891 BC Son of Ashur-dan II [3]
Tukulti-Ninurta II
Tukultī-Ninurta
891 – 884 BC Son of Adad-nirari II [3][35]
Ashurnasirpal IIKopfBM.jpg Ashurnasirpal II
Aššur-nāṣir-apli
884 – 859 BC Son of Tukulti-Ninurta II [3][35]
20131205 Istanbul 049.jpg Shalmaneser III
Salmānu-ašarēd
859 – 824 BC Son of Ashurnasirpal II [3][35]
Shamshi-Adad V-1.jpg Shamshi-Adad V
Šam-ši-Adad
824 – 811 BC Son of Shalmaneser III [3][35]
Adad-nirari III transparent.png Adad-nirari III
Adad-nārārī
811 – 783 BC Son of Shamshi-Adad V [3][35]
Shalmaneser IV
Salmānu-ašarēd
783 – 773 BC Son of Adad-nirari III [3][35]
Ashur-dan III
Aššur-dān
773 – 755 BC Son of Adad-nirari III [3][35]
Ashur-nirari V
Aššur-nārāri
755 – 745/744 BC Son of Adad-nirari III [3][35][36]
Tilglath pileser iii.jpg Tiglath-Pileser III
Tukultī-apil-Ešarra
745 – 727 BC Son of Adad-nirari III or Ashur-nirari V [3][37][38][36][39]
Shalmaneser V crown prince.png Shalmaneser V
Salmānu-ašarēd
727 – 722 BC Son of Tiglath-Pileser III [3][35]

Sargonid dynasty (722–609 BC)

The Neo-Assyrian Empire at the apex of its power in 671 BC, in the reign of Esarhaddon

Image Name Reign Succession & notes Ref
Sargon II and dignitary (particular).jpg Sargon II
Šarru-kīn
722 – 705 BC Claimed to be the son of Tiglath-Pileser III, usurped the throne from Shalmaneser V [3][35][40]
Sanherib-tr-4271.jpg Sennacherib
Sîn-aḥḥē-erība
705 – 681 BC Son of Sargon II [3][35]
Esarhaddon.jpg Esarhaddon
Aššur-aḫa-iddina
681 – 669 BC Son of Sennacherib [3][35]
The Royal lion hunt reliefs from the Assyrian palace at Nineveh, the king is hunting, about 645-635 BC, British Museum (12254914313).jpg Ashurbanipal
Aššur-bāni-apli
669 – 631 BC Son of Esarhaddon [41][42]
Ashur-etil-ilani
Aššur-etel-ilāni
631 – 627 BC Son of Ashurbanipal [42]
Sinsharishkun
Sîn-šar-iškun
627 – 612 BC Son of Ashurbanipal [42]
Sin-sum2.png Sin-shumu-lishir
Sîn-šumu-līšir
626 BC General of Ashur-etil-ilani, rebelled against Sinsharishkun and attempted to claim the throne for himself [43]
Ashur-uballit II
Aššur-uballiṭ
612 – 609 BC Unclear relation, possibly the son of Sinsharishkun [44][45]