Is the virus real (part-1)

Is the virus real?    (part 1)

On the face of it an utterly ridiculous question.  The gut response (and mine also) is…of course it is, real people are getting sick (and dying) and it is contagious.  Can’t get more real than that. However, I know for a fact that they are also conducting a psychological operation and using the media to ramp up fear and there are elements about the virus that are highly suspicious.

 I thought it was time to examine the question again and draw all the threads together into a coherent narrative. That is how you conduct proper science. You constantly evaluate and re-evaluate as new evidence becomes available.  What led to this was a comment I posted about the virus never being isolated using Koch’s postulate after which I was sent links to about ten different scientific articles showing how it had been isolated and how it had been injected into monkeys, mice and hamsters etc and made them sick with similar symptoms…so there (lol).

 Now these scientific articles are difficult to read – they are not in plain English and I think this is often deliberate obfuscation.   Moreover, unless you work in that particular field it can be difficult to evaluate the methodology.   Now, I did do microbiology many moons ago and worked as a junior scientist  at a lab researching plant pathogens.  Although I have done work with bacteria and used the ELISA  technique (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay is a plate-based assay technique designed for detecting and quantifying soluble substances such as peptides, proteins, antibodies, and hormones) I am not familiar with virology or the newer DNA sequencing techniques etc.  However, science is about critical thinking and evaluating not just about technique. Anybody (scientist or not) can evaluate a methodology.

Koch’s Postulate

The whole argument is about Koch’s Postulate which is about how you establish the cause of a disease.   This is not as easy as you might think.  First you have to find a bug. You need to isolate the germ from a sick human or animal (say from their saliva). Then you need to purify the bug and isolate it from the spit and snot or blood etc. Then you need to inject the purified bug into a healthy  animal or human to see if they get the same illness. Then you need to isolate the bug again from the  person or animal that you made sick and check that it is indeed the same bug. It is a sort of “double check” .  It is the  gold standard for identifying the cause of diseases.

 

 

 

 

 

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Were the criteria established by Koch’s applied?

In theory, if the methodology established by Koch is not exactly followed you cannot speak of a particular “germ” being the cause of a disease.   Let us say you always find the presence of X-particle in a person that is sick — that does not mean that X-particle is causing the disease.    It could be that X-particle is simply part of an immune response against an environmental onslaught.   It could be that your own body produces X-particle as a response to a particular attack from outside.   It might not be the cause of the disease but a symptom.

The only way to establish it for sure is to use Koch’s principles and here is where I fell down the rabbit hole because although Koch’s postulate works fine for bacteria it does not work for viruses.  Apparently when you isolate a virus in vitro (in  glass eg test tube etc) it looses its pathogenicity.  It can no longer make you sick.     Ruh, Roh. 

I found a paper discussing a problem with a different virus. The paper is from 2010 and is about a different virus but the problem back then is the same as now: 

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De´ja ` Vu All Over Again: Koch’s Postulates
and Virology in the 21st Century

John V. Williams

Departments of Pediatrics and Microbiology and Immunology, Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, and the Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital
at Vanderbilt, Nashville, Tennessee

This article describes prolonged shedding
of the recently identified human bocavirus
(HBoV) by children and detection of
HBoV in the absence of respiratory symptoms.

 So, I have done something naughty and taken the relevant passages from his article (which is very good) and changed the HBoV into Covid etc to reflect the current situation:

Another feature used to assign disease causality [to Covid] is the absence of the virus in healthy individuals. However asymptomatic subjects do have the "disease"
The work also nicely illustrates a common problem facing modern virologists: how to assign disease [Covid] causality to a microorganism that is not amenable to Koch’s postulates.

 

HBoV [Covid] has been detected in serum samples [13, 16] and stool specimens [14, 28–30] by PCR, but the biological significance of this is not clear. 

 

So the PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test detects something…but how relevant is it? And the amplification is non-linear.   Depending on the sensitivity you can more or less influence the outcome (positive or negative).  You can get what you want.

Does HBoV [Covid]contribute to the pathogenesis of a specific clinical syndrome in either a primary or helper fashion? Is there a contribution of host immune response to HBoV [Covid]reactivation and detection during intercurrent infection? The many unanswered questions about this newly discovered virus return us to basic approaches for establishing causation and pathogenesis regarding any virus.
Koch espoused his core principles regarding the proof of an etiologic role for a potential pathogen in 1884. These postulates were revised by the eminent virologist Thomas Rivers in 1937 to reflect the biology of viruses, which, as obligate intracellular parasites, cannot be isolated in pure culture [37]. Huebner [38] further modified these principles in 1957, during the heyday of virus discovery that followed the development of tissue and cell culture.
Fredricks and Relman [39] eloquently applied these guidelines to sequence-based microbe discovery. There are numerouschallenges in proving viruses as the etiologic causes of specific syndromes: pro-longed viral shedding after acute illness (eg, enteroviruses); latent infection and asymptomatic shedding (eg, herpesviruses); clinical disease in a minority of infected individuals (eg, poliovirus); and re-current asymptomatic infection of immune adults (eg, respiratory syncytial virus) are but a few of these challenges. Huebner proposed a “Bill of Rights for Prevalent Viruses” that comprised a “guarantee against the imputation of guilt by simple association” [38, pp. 434–437] consisting of 8 conditions: (1) isolation of a virus in culture; (2) repeated recovery of the virus from human specimens; (3)antibody response to the virus; (4) characterization and comparison with known pathogenic viruses; (5) constant association of the virus with specific illness; (6)reproduction of clinical illness in volunteer challenge studies; (7) epidemiologic studies (with controlled longitudinal studies offering the greatest value); and (8)prevention of disease by vaccination. The difficulty in meeting several of these conditions for HBoV,[Covid] or for any other new virus, is immediately obvious.

 This article was written 10 years ago about a different virus.  It asks valid questions that have still not been answered.  So, this is not just a bunch of  “tin foil hat” people who have recently jumped on a bandwagon. The science shows that the question is far more nuanced and the results far more uncertain than some like to make out.

From the horses mouth

This is what the scientist involved with the first testing and identification of the virus say in their scientific articles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In all of these papers they admit that they have not purified the virus.  So, then what are you looking at under the Electron Microscope?  You cannot say for sure that it is a virus because you have not purified it.   So, you are not using Koch’s postulates as even the Zhu paper admits.

Although our study does not fulfill Koch’s postulates, our analyses provide evidence implicating 2019-nCoV in the Wuhan outbreak. 

Zhu N et al. A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China, 2019. N Engl J Med. 2020 Jan 14.
* https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001017

 I am sorry Zhu Manchu but if it does not fulfill Koch’s postulates it does not provide evidence of anything.   My backside does not fulfill Koch’s postulates either, nor does it provide evidence of WuFlu.

For further evidence see David Crowe:  COVID SCIENCE: A Challenge to the Discovery of the Virus. Or see his more extensive PDF here: Flaws in Coronavirus Pandemic Theory

The Challenges and requests for information

A number of people have offered challenges and even rewards to scientists to prove that the virus does exists.  This doctor offers you 5000 bucks if you can prove the existence and a European doctor offers 100000.  So far no takers.

 

 

Health Canada has no record of “COVID-19 virus” isolation

 

What is causing the disease if it is not a virus?

The answer put forward is that the tests are picking up on exosomes.  These are pieces of RNA “solvents” that the body excretes when it is under immunological stress and needs to get rid of toxins.  Like viruses, exosomoes are “dead” and need “living tissue”…..do you see where this is going?

 

Could the cause of “viruses” be environmental or terrain factors?

 

 

The fact is that both Wuhan and Northern Italy were the first hit and the worst hit. They both had very high pollution including particulate matter and also high cyanide (from Industry and traffic) and both rolled out 5G at about the time that the virus struck. Now we all know that causation is not correlation but the anecdotal evidence is getting stronger.  They have trillions invested in this new technology and 5G has many overlapping symptoms with Covid.  Something is going on.  Look at recent data from the USA:

 Conclusion

Koch’s postulates have not be fulfilled.  No point denying it as the scientists themselves admit it.  On that basis alone we would be justified in saying that the virus was not real.  However, we are not so hasty although it does raise a giant red flag as does the introduction of 5G.  In part 2 we will delve further into the whole scamdemic and try and establish what is really going on – is the Wu Flu a  Flu Manchu  or  is it a Flu Manju…?

 

 

Forgery and fraud at the CDC

Forgery and fraud at the CDC

 

Another tour de force by Del Bigtree and the HighWire team.  Posted on 10th of July. Breakdown given below:

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4th of July celebrations.
Freedom under attack
Kept from celebrating independence
and freedom of religion
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=235
“If a law is unjust, a man is not
only right to disobey it,
he is obligated to do so”
-Thomas Jefferson
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ
The Jaxen Report
Health care billionares richer
everyone else unemployed
Moderna-Bancel
FaceBook -Zuckerburg
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=600
Illionois Congressman
Raja Krishnamoorthi clip
No proper FDA regulation of anti-body test
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=697
Antibody test not accurate
Can’t even interpret results
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=771
FDA allows self certification of anti-body test
fake tests
Chinese tests
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=951
Contact tracing
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=996
Pentavalent (five-in-one) vaccine study
Diptheria,Tetanus,Hepatitus B(rDNA)
Pertuses, Haemophilus influenzae Type b
(DTwP+HepB-Hib)
Pentais associated with an increased female-male
motality ratio: cohort study from Bangladesh
Excess female mortality between 6months and 9 months of age (when they get the vaccine)
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=1126
Dr Peter Aaby & Christine S Benn
Speaking against DTP vaccine
10 times the death rate
Written to Unicef and WHO
working with African leaders and Iternational Criminal Court
Vaccine targetting (killing) girls
Eugenics population reduction
The Introduction of Diptheria-Tetanus-Pertussis
and Oral Polio Vaccine Among Young infants in an Urban African Community: A natural Experiment
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=1334
Dr. Peter Gotzsche, MD
Scientists waking up to vaccine damage
Freedom of choice and consent
Appeal to help fight court cases
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=1783
CDC Whistleblower
Dr William Thompson
MMR vaccine and 10,000 documents
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ
Age of Autism
Dr Theresa Deisher discusses whistleblower findings
The Utah Whistleblower
Mark Blaxhall author of Denial and
editor of “Age of Autism” interview
with CDC’s Utah
whistleblower Judy Zimmerman PhD
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=2324
William McMahon ,MD
Autism “gene” (lol)
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=2650
Ireland: Schooldchildren diagnosed wirh Autism in NU increases 82% over last five years. (May 22)
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ
New Jersey’s autism rate 1 in 32 -highhest in the country
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=2989
1 in 35 kids
testing older children
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=3081
Concerns
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=3145
Autism rate NJ: 1 in 20 boys 1 in 85 girls
2 million lifetime cost of autism
CDC refusing to recognize an epidemic
refuse to admit environmental causality
de-funding research in high autism states
spinning statistics
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=4158
Sean Reyes Utah AG
Hand writting samples
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=4271
Covid is exposing falsehoods
around data manipulation ,vaccines, autism etc
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=4343
Fauci the liar
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=4422
CDC promotes vaccines
Beracrauts corrrupt -ethically compromised
Dr Coleen Boyle CDC
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=4858
Autism in Australia
Doctors threatened with jail if they question vaccines
PETE EVANS SPEAKS OUT AND IS DROPPED BY CHANNEL SEVEN
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=6352

https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=6352
Freedom of Information request
Department of health
about Independent Saftey Study Test
for flu vaccine-

“documents you have requested do not exist”

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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=6374
scientists warn against fast-track of covid vaxx
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https://youtu.be/7U4zXB4xxMQ?t=6691
Protest in Australia
I WAS THERE WITH MY WIFE this is Adelaide