The Infamous Council

The Infamous Council – By Their Fruits Episode 24 (1:02)

https://youtu.be/t5CE8XGZ5o8

 

My Comment under the video:

The Johannine Comma is the text (with the Comma in square brackets) in the King James Bible reads in 1 John 5: 7-8 (modern spelling):

7 For there are three that bear record [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.] 8[And there are three that bear witness in earth], the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood, and these three agree in one.
— King James Version (1611)

Was this a gloss? Most textual critics would answer that it was not in the original. However, even if we allow it to stand is it a creedal statement about the nature of God? Not really all it proves is that "these three" are in agreement. It means that they bear record i.e. they witness. Context is EVERYTHING, the next verse says; "If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son". Does this verse tell us anything about the "nature" of water, blood and Spirit? Are they the same substance? No. They are in agreement in their witnessing as in John 19: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the SPIRIT (v.30).....Jesus' side was pierced and poured out WATER and BLOOD and (v.35): "And he that saw it BARE RECORD (witness)." So on earth the water, blood and spirit are united in their witness to the redemptive work and similarly in heaven the Father, Word and Spirit bear testimony. Indeed, the Greek is not masculine (to denote three co-eternal, co-equal persons in the Godhead) but the Greek for "one" (these three are one) is neuter as it is in John 17 ("that they [the disciples] may be one even as we are one). So, this is not some slam dunk textual proof. Shall we stick with the Bible where Jesus describes himself as the Son of Man and God as his Father. I could say a lot more, but why do we need to add more? Someone has yet to describe to me how atonement works if Jesus is just another form (substance) of God? Surely that would disallow the very possibility of temptation and failure and therefore make any victory a hollow pretense. The primitive Christian church was penetrated by Judaizers early on (false brethren) who tried to turn believers back to the law. The one thing that Orthodox Judaism will not tolerate is any dilution of the monotheistic principle. I would say their subversion has been successful because even their proxy religion which was set up in competition with Christianity (Islam which is a Jewish invention) is strictly monotheistic. In fact Islam will not even countenance that God could have a son and in this is similar to Judaism.