Metaphysics and the Long Con

Metaphysics and the Long Con

In this stream I take part in the open panel discussion on metaphysics hosted by Dr Kevin McCairn the systems neuroscientist.  This is a stream that is nearly seven hours long (7:04). In the first section Dr Kevin McCairn streams with Davey Crocko on the “Real Science Behind the Venom Grift” and that section ends with Kevin tuning into the debate (starts  https://youtu.be/itTRFLQn4jc?t=6468)   between Adam Green and E. Michael Jones, Ph.D. hosted on  #Killstream Saturday Night: Adam Green vs E. Michael Jones (odysee.com)

Adam Green (from Know More News) is regarded as a far-right anti-Semite because he has brought valid criticism against the Talmud and Christian-Zionism.  However, Adam Green has developed his “theology” even further (under the tutelage of Christopher Jon Bjerknes) to the point where he understands all of Christianity as part of a Jewish Conspiracy which I have named the Long Con.

Definition: The Long Con (plural long cons) A scam in which the scammer takes a long period of time (usually weeks, months or longer) to defraud the victim, by first slowly gaining their trust.

This stretches the credibility of Green as he relies on Bjerknes to provide the academic ammunition for his hypothesis.  This is a problem because   Bjerknes is adept at conflating different mythologies, ignoring historical evidence and practicing deeply flawed hermeneutics which I have debunked in the past. [1]   That said, many of Green’s (and CJB’s) criticism regarding Talmudic Judaism and Christian-Zionism are valid.  It is just a pity that it had to be leveraged to extremis.

On the other hand, E. Michael Jones is a Catholic writer who seeks to defend traditional Catholic teachings and stop the damage that he believes Jews are inflicting on the Catholic Church and western civilization.  He is also seen as an antisemite by the ADL (who isn’t?). Although E. Michael Jones makes valid points (about the Logos etc) he is also constrained by his dogma (incarnation rather than manifestation) and the circularity of his primal causation worldview and his understanding of the exclusivity of the Catholic Church as the only means of salvation which carries echoes the Jewish claims of superiority. This should not surprise us as the Roman Church was penetrated by Jewish converts. [2]

So, Dr Kevin McCairn is justified in his criticism of both viewpoints and his critique of Armageddon fetishism is also valid.  All the Abrahamic religions (this includes Islam) expect that catastrophic events will usher in a new world. This plays into the hands of those who would use violence to usher in the new world order.  It was ever thus:

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force (Matt 11:12).

They attempted a violent imposition of the “kingdom of heaven” in the first and second centuries with appearance of false Messiah’s and each time it ended in disaster. [3] They have therefore established a pattern of behaviour.  The nation became unclean, demon possessed like legion and was therefore sent into exile like the scapegoat. [4] The story of the demon possessed man in the synoptic Gospels is an acted parable that depicts how the Jews constantly fall into delusional madness [5] in their attempt to impose order on chaos and take up the position that they see as rightfully theirs.

Did an elite class (priests?) possess knowledge of the timing and frequency of such cataclysms which they could then use to their advantage? Many ancient civilizations had an awareness of cyclical disasters at regular intervals, and it is certainly possible that such knowledge was passed down the generations and that it would confer an advantage when transitioning into a “new age”.  It is also true that survival strategy encouraged in-group preference and saw Jewish power exercised at the top level of every civilization (Egypt, Babylon, Persia etc) as the Bible stories recount and there is no reason to doubt this as we see the same today.

Is it possible that Christianity itself is a Jewish ploy designed to confuse and disinherit the Gentiles (the long con)?    This seems hardly plausible as the Old Testament depicts the Jews in a very unflattering manner.  They are not portrayed as a master race and their progenitor Jacob (later renamed Israel) is depicted as a deceiver and a cheat (see the character in Uncut Gems).[6]  The fact that Christianity is hated with a vengeance and undermined by the Jews (cf. the Bolsheviks) mitigates against the thesis that it is “a Jewish ploy”.

One way or another the Jews are trying to implement their vision of the kingdom of God whether that is through the Chabad Noahide Tikkun Olam concept or New Age (theosophic/luciferian) [7] theology with the added twist of transhumanism where man himself transcends his own humanity with the help of Artificial Intelligence.  In other words, it is the original sin of wanting to become God. The “temptation” of the serpent that man can acquire knowledge and eternal life and become God through his own effort. This is reflected in the current drive towards coupling Artificial Intelligence with Human consciousness which is nothing other than the ultimate mind of the flesh. [8]

While it is true that scripture depicts humans as “gods” (elohim) made in the “image” that does not mean equivalence with God. This is reflected in a Psalm that can be contextualized in the Hezekiah era where the “gods” are the Sanhedrin judges:

I have said, Ye are gods (elohim); and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men (adam) and fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations (Ps 82: 6-8) [9]

The attempt to “become gods” is the sui generis and sui causa of the mythos presented in Eden.  That we can control our destiny through an act of self-determination if only we have enough knowledge.  However, that knowledge only brings fear because we realize that without God, we are naked and vulnerable. We are mortal, fallen creatures that carry the seeds of our own destruction living in a Universe that seems to inflict random chaos and pain on all our attempts to order our existence.

 Jewish lens?

The critique that we are viewing everything through a Jewish lens is a valid one because we do. When Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman he indicated that salvation comes via the Jews  (John 4:4) but also said that God must be worshiped in Spirit and Truth (John 4:24) although the Pharisees had all the correct doctrines,  yet they were deficient (Matt 23:3) and so it is with many Christians who profess to be doing the will of God (Matt 7:22-23).

Our culture can be considered Judeo-Christian, at least in the West but the influence of that culture is felt globally (even in the East non-Christian countries) through science and media. The Age or Reason was an attempt to break free of religion and to be solely guided by scientific rationality.  How has that worked out?  We face the nightmare of neo- Malthusianism and the death of freewill in subservience to the collective.  We will become slaves to our own technology. The machines are taking over Skynet has become selfaware.  Is eschatology becoming self-fulfilling?  To some extent it is.  

 However, I believe that they will lose complete control.  Kevin refers to this as passively waiting for them to “drop the ball” or “fumble the pass” (a good analogy) and laments that many Christians are using it as an excuse to sit on their hands and do nothing except “turn the other cheek”.  That is a fair criticism because I do believe that the Christian response has been passive, weak and completely missing. We should be fighting and witnessing.  By fighting I mean that we are engaged in a spiritual war (Eph 6:12), a psychological conflict and we need to “armor up” (Eph 6:13) and witness to the truth without fear or favor.   We should not comply and refuse to worship the golden image of the beast (Dan 3:18).  In this case the gold A.I. quantum computers that represent human reasoning and the running amok of science that seeks to dethrone God from his place as creator and sustainer of all life.

 No man is good

The lesson must be learnt that no man is good (Luke 18:19).  We are all fallen creatures and no man can come to God unless he is drawn by him (John 6:44).  It is God who sets the terms and God who chooses. It is the prerogative of the creator to make one vessel to honor and another to dishonor (Rom 9:21).  God answers to no one nor should he.  He creates and he destroys.  As the end is known from the beginning who are we to demand answers or justification?

True Christianity is the only belief that teaches that you cannot save yourself.   All other religions and philosophies teach that enlightenment and redemption can be achieved through an exercise of will or self-actualization.    We can transform ourselves. True religion says the opposite.  The Jews believed that the messiah would come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). The Sabbatian and Frankists reasoned that as the world can never be fully righteous the only way to achieve salvation is to make it fully evil.  The nihilistic Sabbatian and Frankist movements rejected all norms and advocated the “redemption through sin” including sexual rituals and sacred orgies with incest. In their inversion Sin became holy and it was necessary to unmake creation because the material world (compare Gnosticism) is evil.  The “true God” could allegedly be revealed only through a destruction of the social and religious structures created by the “false God,” thus leading to a thorough antinomianism. This is of course insane and probably formed the basis of Satanism such as advocated by Aleister Crowley with the only law being “Do what thou wilt” a recipe for complete societal breakdown. This is what happens when we completely reject God.

Humility

All I see around me is the hubris and arrogance of man. Even as all our paradigms and science fail the test of time we still self-congratulate and narcissistically revel in our greatness like Nebuchadnezzar boasting of his glory before he was turned into a beast (Dan 4:30-32).   And that is how God regards our effort at self-deification.  It has become (like all human Empires) a devouring beast.

Our models of the Universe are all wanting whether that is large scale (dark matter) or small scale (quantum mechanics) only tell part of the story.  The truth is that ‘in him we live and move and have our being’ (Acts 17:28) our universe is like a complex brain and ultimately our consciousness is derivative.  We need to be humble in the presence of such awesomeness.  A billion, billion galaxies and our lives are just the blink of an eye.

Here is the Youtube full version (https://youtu.be/itTRFLQn4jc) but the panel discussion starts here:

This is the Boxcast version and it is also available on the Dojo.

Notes

[1] See Metaphysics and Myth ,  The Cacodemon and Are You being Punked?

[2] The founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius of Loyola, was a converso, (convert) and so was his successor Diego Lainex. The futurist interpretation of the Apocalypse was written by Jesuit-Jew Ribera thus drawing attention away from any partial first and second century fulfillment that would have a negative impact on the Jews and any interpretation that would involve identifying the church with the harlot or the beast. This covered all bases and pushed the Apocalypse somewhere into the distant future neutralising it as an instrument of criticism. See Jews and Jesuits and St. Ignatius of Loyola and the Jews

[3] Simon bar Giora the Idumean (69-70 CE) whose coins bore the legend “Redemption of Zion”, indicating that there was a religious aspect to Simon’s bid for power. This does not prove that he was considered the Messiah, but it is likely. The fact that he wore a royal robe in the Temple is another indication. Simon bar Kokhba, born Simon ben Koseva, (d. 135 AD) who lead the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire.

[4] The Scapegoat and the Jews

[5] There are many intertextual links between the healing of Legion and the witnessing in Revelation 11. The apostle Paul also links Romans 11 with Revelation 11 which strongly suggests that the Apocalypse was already in circulation before Romans was written (therefore dating the Apocalypse early before 70). Take special note of the use of the word torment in Luke 8:28 and Rev 11:10 and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another” which is a characteristic of the Jewish feast of Purim. The two witnesses (prophets) are therefore regarded as enemies by the Jews and murdered. They are raised (vindicated) after three-and-a -half days reminiscent of the resurrection of Jesus.

[6] Review of Uncut Gems

[7] Theosophy

[8] Flesh vs. Spirit

[9] See the use of Psalm 82 by Christ when talking to the Sanhedrin: Psalm 82 in the Fourth Gospel The historical context of the Psalm is the Hezekiah period contemporary with the prophet Isaiah. The Psalm is a condemnation of the Judges (the seventy or Sanhedrin) otherwise known as the Elohim (gods). Men and rulers referred to as God: Exodus 7:1; 21:6; 22:8,9,28; 23:20,21; Psalms 58:1(?); 97:7; 138:11; 1 Samuel 2:25; 28:13. Psalm 82 (Booker/HAW) and in the commentary on Isaiah (HAW): [p.123] Here God is represented as being busy judging the judges. Those who should have been setting the tone of public life in the nation, themselves needed remonstration, denunciation and discipline. Psalm 82 is marvellously like this passage in phraseology and idea and may well be an Isaiah psalm appropriate to this very time (a Psalm of Asaph because handed over to the Asaph choir in the temple). [p. 259] Psalm 82 is demonstrably another psalm of the reign of Hezekiah, and there verse 7, otherwise rather bewildering, is a clear allusion to Shebna: “Ye shall fall like one of the princes,” that is, the demotion he has experienced will be yours also.

The Cacodemon

The Cacodemon

Christopher Jon Bjerknes discusses his book Satanic Secrets of Jesus Christ which basically sees the whole Bible including the NT as a plot by the Jews to take over the world.  The Gentiles have been fooled into believing in Yahweh who is a Cacodemon and taken in by Jesus who is really a Satanic Serpent.    No, I did not make that up…that is what he is putting forward and he lends it credibility by conflating numerous myths and presenting a pseudo-intellectual argument that falls apart as soon as you start pulling on the threads. It is only superficially plausible because so few people are familiar with Scripture or with hermeneutical techniques. The stream is about four and a half hours and my video response is bellow.

Running Order

The running order is taken from the Dojo website. If you watch it there the time stamps will take you to the relevant section.  https://www.mccairndojo.com/

  • 00:14:31 Start
  • 00:20:30 Jon Bierknes call-in, modern bolshevism
  • 00:49:18 Arimanius in DuckDuckGo, Google
  • 00:50:20 Yaltabaoth in DuckDuckGo, Google
  • 00:51:50 Alexander Dugan, Kabbalah, “national socialism is national bolshevism”
  • 00:55:10 1962 David Ben Gurion “in the future, the Soviet Union will expand into a Eurasian empire”, Putin, Chabad Lubavitch
  • 01:00:18 Gnostic Christianism, Jesus as serpent on the tree of good and evil
  • 01:04:40 Story of Noah, olive branch, vineyard, Noah as Satan drinking the venom of the snake, archetipes, opposites
  • 01:18:00 Stealing the knowledge from the first born, unripe knowledge, Moses, serpent on a stick, Plato’s Atlantis
  • 01:22:42 Why be concerned about Russia? Jens Stoltenberg, Norvegian communist in charge of NATO
  • 01:24:45 SARS, dual-use research, advantageous polymorphisms, ties between Israel and South Africa, George Galloway
  • 01:30:20 Religious aspect will be pushed very hard
  • 01:33:00 “Adam was a single man, he was actually an androgyne”, “all humanity, with the exception of Noah’s family, was exterminated”, androgynous and immortal jews
  • 01:41:00 Justinian Deception
  • 01:41:36 Chabad Lubavitch, Sabbateans, Rothschild, jews killed their first-borns, use of the word “goyim”
  • 01:46:06 Israel pushed through technocratic conversion, “the big jews are going to kill them all too”, “the poision is unripe technology”
  • 01:49:00 Tree of life in Kabbalah, Tikkum Olam
  • 01:51:00 Historic evidence of Jesus
  • 01:56:30 Greeks, Egyptian, Hitite biological warfare, scape goating process, poisoning the wells
  • 02:00:10 Hiding knowledge, controlled opposition, troll farms, Castillian kabbalists in the 1200s
  • 02:11:00 “Ham sodomized Noah” Sahnedrin 70a.18
  • 02:12:00 Reappearance of Satan, Zohar Bereshit, Drunk on D’vine, The Cup of God’s Wrath, Deuteronomy 28 “You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. The lord will make you the head, not the tail”, gentiles responsible for making Jews usurers?
  • 02:29:50 Orthodox Christianity, Jesus is Satan, Christians turned agains their own God, “Christians celebrate this mutilated corpse hanging off a cross”
  • 02:32:00 Tikkum Olam, technology used in a destructive way, freeing the sparks from the body of gentiles, Hesiod, metallic ages
  • 02:35:00 Christianity is the Leviathan, Islam is the Behemoth, Middle-Eastern War, Aristotle and Plato on usury, Thomas Jefferson
  • 02:46:07 “Those Christians who opposed usury relied upon the Pagans, upon Aristotle and Plato”
  • 02:52:01 Deuteronomy 15, “At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts.”, Deuteronomy 15.3
  • 03:12:00 Zecharia 14, soul and matter, neoplatonism
  • 03:24:00 Paracelsus: “The poison is the cure”
  • 03:50:33 End Jon Bjerknes call-in

The Cacodemon conquers the world (1:02 min)

My video response:

The blog article below includes my previous video response and a link to CJB ‘s previous stream (Are you being punked?) with Dr Kevin McCairn in which CJB demonstrated a complete lack of understanding regarding the function and origins of Scapegoat typology on the Day of Atonement.  Despite explaining the scapegoat ritual and leaving links to articles (See: Are you being punked?) Christopher continues to ignore the evidence.

Are you listening to a pied piper?

 

Are You Being Punked?

Are You Being Punked?

This stream is 5hrs 16 min in which I join Dr Kevin McCairn, Christopher Jon Bjerknes,  and John Brisson to discuss metaphysics.  Christopher Jon Bjerknes advocates for the position that the current circumstances that we are facing is a result of self-fulfilling Jewish prophesy.  According to this view the Old Testament and therefore Christianity owes its grounding in platonic and Gnostic thought. We are being trained by the Bible (both the OT and the NT) to extinguish ourselves and destroy our earth.   We have been punked.  Oy, Vey!    I have probably oversimplified Christopher’s position. Christopher has a Jewish Grandfather on his mothers side (https://www.bitchute.com/video/dATWlHyqN3t3/) so he is not antisemitic but I find it amusing that so many dissidents who are critical of Judaism also want to destroy Christianity and replace it with scientific rationalism.  I can imagine that working out real well (lolz).

I believe that faith and science are not in opposition but that true scientific inquiry should be ethically guided.  Finally, I find myself in agreement with Christopher’s assessment of the Talmud and the Zohar as they are basically a rewriting and supplementary “interpretation” of the Old Testament, what Jesus calls, the traditions of men.   The Jews have turned pilpul into a fine art and can argue that black is white.  So, while  I agree that the Jews are using the basis of their holy book (the Torah) as an agent to dominate the world….as a playbook, I reject the notion that the outcome is inevitable or that the OT is somehow presenting a different malevolent God.  The NT cannot be divorced from the OT and this can be demonstrated by proper intertextual reading.  Any perceived contradictions is a failure in hermeneutics.   I have placed links to some of the subjects that we touched upon underneath the video (more can be found on the main website).

In the final analysis the enemy of the primitive first century church (which was predominately Jewish) were fellow Jews.  They persecuted Jewish Christians and killed them. The  same pattern holds for the Bar Kochba rebellion. Talmudic  Jews killing Christian Jews.  Through the centuries Jews have subverted the Christian church.  The Jews perceived the church as their enemy.  Why do you think that the Bolsheviks tried to exterminate Christianity?   Western democracy and sovereignty is rooted in Christian principles. After the 2-3rd centuries Jewish Christianity virtually disappeared and Christianity became a (predominately) a Gentile religion as the apostle Paul indicated;

"And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?" (Rom 11:9-12)

It certainly did provoke them to jealousy because they lost their special position. The inclusion of the Gentiles into the predominantly Jewish church was a major problem in the first century and many Jewish believers resented the fact that Gentiles should have equal status. In many circles the apostle Paul is hated even more than Jesus.  (Paul was a rabbi….for goodness sake…a self hating Jew who let those scummy goy into the tent).The story in the Gospel of Mark demonstrates that even Jesus had to adjust his opinion of the Gentiles who were considered dogs.   

 "And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.  But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.  Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.  But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.  And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.  Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour".  (Matthew 15:22-28)

On this see Food for Thought  http://www.biblaridion.info/Anthology/food_for_thought.pdf

Jesus certainly extended the Gospel to the Gentiles  when he declared that he had other sheep:

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd"(John 10:16).

And he declared that he would draw all men (Jew and Gentile) denoting the universality of his sacrifice:

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me" (John 12:32).

 

This stresses the human nature of Christ as a litmus test for Christianity contra Gnosticism which views material existence as flawed or evil, Gnostic cosmogony generally presents a distinction between a supreme, hidden God and a malevolent lesser divinity Yahweh of the Old Testament) who is responsible for creating the material universe. Jesus is therefore not material (flesh) which in their view is intrinsically evil.  Scripture depicts flesh as weak and fallen and estranged from God.   Jesus bore the Yahweh name – Yah saves.

( The spirits here are prophets who proclaim to testify through the spirit the figure of speech is  a synecdoche i.e. it stands for teachers who profess what they claim is a divine, inspired message they emphasised personal spiritual knowledge (gnosis) above the orthodox teachings).

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world" (John 4:1).

The quote in Deuteronomy is not a plan to dominate the world but an ethical guide on how to treat strangers. The Hebrew word used here is for foreigners or aliens (nekar) outside the land (usually hostile) not a stranger (ger) dwelling among them.

"Unto a stranger (nekar) thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it" (Deuteronomy 23:20 )

The above quote has to be balanced with this from the same book:

"He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger(ger), in giving him food and raiment. Love ye therefore the stranger (ger): for ye were strangers(ger) in the land of Egypt" (Deuteronomy 10:18-19).

The Israelite had themselves been strangers living in Egypt and were never to forget that lesson.  The Palestinians are “strangers” (some would argue the original inhabitants) dwelling amongst them and they are extorted to love the stranger.  So, it is selective quoting to go to one passage and refer to it as a plan for world domination of the goy.  I do not see any divine instructions for establishing a central bank or the divine imprimatur to rob, steal and cheat.   The fact that the Jews would use such a text to justify their wrong doing is just more pilpul. In the eschatological vision of Isaiah foreigners are given a positive relationship (56:3,6) and role (60:10,61:5), when God has reversed the old orders.

Dark Sayings
Stylometrics on the Hebrew etc a summary of 7th-8th century writings and the book of Proverbs. https://www.biblaridion.info/html/dark.html

Scapegoat

The  Scapegoat
https://www.biblaridion.info/Anthology/Jewish_goat1.pdf

Cain as the scapegoat sent away bearing his sins
http://www.biblaridion.info/Anthology/cain.pdf

Zodiac and the tribes: cosmogony
https://www.biblaridion.info/Digressions/zodiac.pdf

Jacob the cheater and deceiver:Wrestling with God; Jacob as a paradigm for the nation of Israel  http://www.biblaridion.info/resources/jacob.pdf

Wickedness in Shinar: The Babylonian Talmud
https://www.biblaridion.info/resources/shinar.pdf

Witnessing prototypes (Apocalypse) based on Moses and Elijah
https://www.biblaridion.info/html/ch11.html#P219

The LXX (Septuagint or SEVENTY) Greek version of the OT

Christopher maintains that there was no OT prior to the Greek version and that the Greek version was influenced by Greek philosophy etc. In other words, the Greek version was not a translation it was the first version.  Modern scholarship holds that the Septuagint was written from the 3rd through the 1st centuries BC, but nearly all attempts at dating specific books (except for the Pentateuch, early- to mid-3rd century BC) are tentative. The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to a range from the third century BC to the first century AD. That means that the oldest scrolls in the collection might have been as old as the Septuagint, which dates to the third century BC. A big, big part of what the Dead Sea Scrolls showed us is that both the LXX and the MT trace back to very old Hebrew sources which must be related at some point in the distant past prior to the composition of the LXX.

The position presented by Christopher is a gross oversimplification of a very complex field. Very skilled scholars can reconstruct from word choice that they are mistranslated from original Hebrew Aramaic sources.  It is a misconception to think that scribes were translating from a set canon. Only the Pentateuch was a stabilized text the prophets etc were still in flux and all on different scrolls in different parts of the empire.  The next  links should give some idea of the complexity that we are dealing with:

Septuagint

 

The Origin of the LXX